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The prime minister tells MPs the next summit with the EU will be held on 20 November
  
  


Pippa Crerar and Jessica Elgot have been talking about the Brexit/Russia row on the latest edition of the Guardian’s Politics Weekly UK podcast. You can watch it here.

Details of Burnham's meetings with Manchester City when he was city's mayor released

Andy Burnham had a formal meeting with Manchester City’s chair Khaldoon Al Mubarak at an investment summit, chatted to him in the stands at a star player’s testimonial game and was accompanied by staff from the club on official overseas visits, the Press Association reports. PA says:

Details of the prime minister’s contacts with the scandal-hit club and its Abu Dhabi owners during his time as Greater Manchester mayor were released by the combined authority.

Burnham told MPs that “all of my dealings” with Manchester City’s owners would be published.

A spokesperson for the Greater Manchester combined authority said:

In October 2021 Andy Burnham, in his role as mayor of Greater Manchester, had a formal meeting with Khaldoon Al Mubarak at the UK Government’s Global Investment Summit arranged by the Department for International Trade.

In his capacity as mayor, he was a guest of Manchester City FC at home matches on a small number of occasions, including attending Vincent Kompany’s testimonial match in September 2019, where he met the chairman informally in the stands. These have been declared in the usual way.

Also during his time as mayor, representatives of Greater Manchester sporting clubs would routinely join business delegations as part of mayoral international visits. This included representatives from Manchester United travelling to Austin and Dublin, Lancashire Cricket Club joining a delegation to India, and Manchester City FC staff supporting visits to China and Japan.

In the Commons Liam Byrne, the Labour chair of the business committee, asked Andy. Burnham to consider the case for new tariffs on Chinese imports.

He said:

The EU’s made-in-Europe proposals risks destroying any ambitions to re-industrialise our country. To avoid that peril, we are going to have to get serious with the EU in tackling unfair competition from China.

So will the prime minister reserve the right to introduce new tariffs on unfairly subsidised imports from China, so that British and European businesses have got a fair level playing field on which to compete?

Burnham replied:

I agree with him, though, that Made in Europe does present risks to British manufacturing, and I know he will have concerns about the automotive industry in the West Midlands.

I am raising those concerns with European partners. It is important that we get to an arrangement here that works for both the UK and the EU. After all, we are both trying to deal with the same issue, which is Chinese exports and the damaging effect that’s having on our industry.

So the way to approach this is to do it together, and that’s the case that we’re making to the EU.

In his response to Kemi Badenoch, Andy Burnham explicitly denied implying that the Brexit referendum result was illegitimate when he made his comment about Russian interference. (See 4.17pm.) The Conservative party has now issued a thoroughly misleading statement ignoring what he said. A spokesperson said:

The leader of the opposition just asked the prime minister, in light of his comments on Russian interference, if he thought the 2016 EU Referendum result was legitimate or illegitimate. Andy Burnham refused to answer.

There can be no doubt that his words to the Rest Is Politics were intended to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the referendum result. By not answering Kemi Badenoch’s question, Andy Burnham has all but conceded this was a deliberate ploy intended to sow more division, reopen the battles of the past, and bolster his own case for rejoining the EU.

This reads like the sort of statement which gets drafted in advance in expectation of one response in the Commons, and which then gets released anyway even thought it doesn’t apply.

The former Tory PM Boris Johnson is also misrepresenting what Burnham said. He posted this on social media this afternoon.

This is just not true. As soon as I became foreign secretary I asked the security services the same question and they replied that there was no evidence of any successful interference in the 2016 referendum, by Russia or any other power.

Either the security services have changed their view - which would be very odd - or Burnham is lying about what he has been told. After all Starmer was in power for two years and had access to exactly the same information.

You can read what Burnham did actually say on the Rest is Politics at 10.33am.

Burnham declines invitation to condemn Trump for his 'act of treachery' in buying diesel from Putin

Ed Davey also asked Burnham to bring together a coalition of countries willing to condemn President Trump for the deal he has agreed to buy Russian diesel.

Burnham ignored this question when he replied to Davey, but the Tory MP Roger Gale challenged him on it again later. Gale asked Burnham to unequivocally condemn “this act of treachery” by Trump.

Burnham replied:

I did make it clear in my statement that, when I heard news, I was immediately on the phone to President Zelenskyy offering any help that I could provide.

And I think where Britain can best provide help is in trying to bring people back together to get a solution that works for Ukraine. And you have to think about that more than anything in these circumstances - what will be most helpful?

Ed Davey, the Lib Dem leader, praised Burnham for his comments about Brexit. He said:

His predecessor turned a blind eye to the disastrous consequences of the Conservatives’ Brexit deal, so it’s welcome to hear him recognise that damage today.

We on these benches have consistently argued that their Brexit deal has made us all poorer, weaker and less safe.

So I’m glad the prime minister has arrived at the same conclusion as we have.

But now it’s time to do something about it.

Davey said that Burnham should not revisit the Labour manifesto red lines ruling out joining a customs union or the single market this parliament.

Burnham said he thought public opinion had shifted, and people now wanted a “pragmatic” approach to Europe.

But, he went on:

I also want to maintain trust in politics. And I’m afraid I’m not prepared to revisit the red lines. in our our manifesto.

Burnham claims he's not reopening Brexit referendum - but he says he wants to be 'pragmatic'

Edward Leigh, the Conservative father of the Commons, asked if Burnham would view this as a reasonable statement. This is the statement he asked the PM to endorse.

I’ve been elected by my MPs to serve a full term of government. I’m going to get on with bread and butter issues such as the care system, pensions, asylum. And of course we would like a good, close relationship with our partners on security in Europe.

But I say this to the people – this is the prime minister speaking – I am very wary about reopening the whole Brexit wars …

And I give this absolute commitment that I would not seek to join the EU unless there was a general election first and I offer the British people a full referendum.

Burnham replied:

Can I say to the father of the house that I stand by every single one of those words.

I am not reopening the referendum. I respect the referendum result … but what I will do is take a pragmatic approach.

When I can boost growth in the British economy, when I can increase cooperation to get a grip on the boat crossings across the channel, I will do those things where I believe they can be in the country’s best interests.

Burnham says Russian interference comment did not mean he was questioning legitimacy of Brexit referendum result

Burnham rejected Badenoch’s claim that his comment about Russia on the Rest is Politics podcast meant he did not accept the legitimacy of the Brexit referendum. He said “no such thing”, he told MPs. He went on:

It is a matter of record that Russian actors sought to interfere in the 2019 general election. And we think it is inconceivable that this was the first time.

Burnham says Tories shouldn't oppose revised deal with EU if they are serious about growth

In his response to Badenoch, Burnham said that her comments about the proposed EU-UK deal revising the Brexit settlement implied that she wanted to preserve the status quo.

He went on:

I’m sure I heard her say at her conference that increasing growth would be the operating principle of any government that she leads.

So how can she justify turning her back on a deal that is potentially on the table now to add billions to the UK economy? How can they justify turning their back on farmers and the food industry?

And referring to her attack on his negotiating tactics, Burnham added sarcastically: “Because the Tories were so good, weren’t they, at negotiating deals with our with our partners?”

Badenoch accuses Burnham of casting doubt on legitimacy of Brexit referendum result

In her response to Andy Burnham, Kemi Badenoch criticised him for focusing on Brexit at a time when she said he should be focusing on issues like the cost of living.

On Europe, she accused him of failing as a negotiator, because he had already revealed “his entire negotiating hand”.

And she accused him of suggesting the result of the Brexit referendum was illegitimate with his comment about Russian interference.

He implied that the referendum result was illegitimate because of Russian interference. Where has this come from? We all remember in 2018 the head of MI5 said that there was no evidence that Russia had influenced the EU referendum result.

Even this morning, his own foreign minister could not say if the evidence existed. So will he confirm here and now whether he believes the referendum result was legitimate?

Burnham says 'public will be the boss' in any future decisions about closer relationship with EU

Burnham confirmed that he wanted to open a discussion about the UK’s future relationship with the EU.

If we are serious, if we are serious about promoting growth, controlling immigration, upholding our values and security, it is a conversation we must have.

The status quo is not good enough for Britain.

Worse, it would be a major dereliction of duty to turn away.

We need to take a calm, clear-eyed, rational look at the world as it is today to consider what is best for our country.

Our immediate priority is securing a successful outcome at the summit, and I believe we should then set up a serious dialogue about the different options for our relationship in the long term.

At every stage, the British public will be the boss, and I am clear that public opinion currently supports a pragmatic approach like the one I am suggesting.

Burnham gave further details of how a revised deal with the EU could boost the economy.

At present, entire truckloads of plants or fresh produce can be destroyed because of a single missing stamp or a minor paperwork delay. Fresh meat and fish spoil while waiting in trucks, and tonnes of exports have to be written off. Our largest food exports, Scottish salmon, faces a 100% rate of document checks at the border, costing us around £100m in lost exports. British burgers and other fresh meat products cannot be sold in the EU. Seed potatoes from Scotland and shellfish from Wales are banned. This is having a real impact on businesses and the agreement on the table could reverse some of that damage.

For farmers and food producers, it will lift the burden that can reach £1,400 on a single shipment for our small businesses. It means no more export health certificates, which can cost up to £200 each time for households. It will ease the pressure on prices in the supermarket … The proposed energy deal could cut wholesale energy costs by 20%.

On immigration, we could link up our law enforcement efforts once again, sharing more data and criminal records of foreign nationals, as well as faster electronic evidence from the phones of those behind the gangs.

It is in Britain’s interest to secure a deal along these lines, and I will work hard over the next five weeks to achieve it.

Burnham claims deals to be agreed at EU-UK summit could boost economy by £10bn per year

Burnham confirms the next EU-UK summit will be on 20 November.

This summit presents an opportunity to make progress on two crucial issues boosting UK growth, and controlling illegal immigration.

On the table is a trade deal on food and drink products, a deal on emissions trading, progress towards linking our energy systems, a new youth experience scheme and deeper cooperation on immigration.

The summit will also be an opportunity to raise our concerns about Made in Europe, and it is clear to me that there is an opportunity to make progress in all of these areas.

Together, these deals will add the equivalent of over £10bn per year to the UK economy by 2040, with the potential to add significantly more. We should not turn our backs on this opportunity.

Burnham says plot against RAF Fairford 'highly likely' to have been coordinated by Iran, and further sanctions against them planned

Burnham turns to the plot against RAF Fairford that led to the US withdrawing its bombers.

The home secretary will update the house regarding the incident at RAF Fairford, but I can confirm our assessment that it is highly likely to have been coordinated in Iran, almost certainly directed by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard.

We will not tolerate these threats on our soil.

We will crack down on Iran’s use of criminal networks, using our full range of powers to target them and their funding streams, and we will bring further sanctions to restrict the capacity of Iran and the IRGC to do us harm.

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Burnham said the RAF plane sent to help Saudi Arabia with refuelling in their fight against the Houthis has now completed 14 operational missions.

Burnham says he welcomes what Trump said about energy ceasefire in Ukraine

Burnham says he welcomes President Trump’s announcement of an energy ceasefire in Ukraine. He says:

I welcome President Trump’s announcement yesterday of a reciprocal energy ceasefire.

President Zelenskyy has assured me Ukraine would immediately implement it when a start date is confirmed, and I will be discussing this further with him in the coming days.

(Burnham is being tactful. This is the ceasefire that Trump announced when Zelenskky knew nothing about it.)

Burnham said he took a message to the UN “that after a decade of turbulence, Britain is back and can be relied upon as a consistent and stable partner in an uncertain world”.

He says in New York he assured President Zelenskyy of the UK’s support for Ukraine.

Since that meeting, Russian strikes have intensified even further, with more attacks on civilians on apartment blocks housing innocent families, on buses carrying innocent children.

When I spoke to President Zelenskyy on Saturday, he described the step change from Russia, including daylight attacks intended to break their will and ours.

I can tell you that will never happen.

Burnham opens Commons statement by praising Sagal Abdi-Wali's 'story of hope' from refugee to MP

Andy Burnham is making his Commons statement. He says it will cover the UN general assembly that he attended, and he says it will cover related developments too.

But he starts by welcoming the new MP for Holborn and St Pancras, Sagal Abdi-Wali.

He goes on:

What a journey from child refugee to parliament and what a country, that this story of hope could happen here.

Next EU-UK summit to take place on 20 November in Brussels, European Council president says

Jennifer Rankin is the Guardian’s Brussels correspondent.

The EU and UK summit will take place on 20 November in Brussels, a senior Brussels official has announced, ending months of uncertainty about the event.

The EU-UK summit - the second gathering of its kind - will be hosted by European Council President António Costa and the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen.

“The European Union and the United Kingdom are like-minded partners, united by common values and shared interests,” said Costa, a former Portuguese prime minister, who chairs summits of the EU’s 27 leaders.

He said:

Our security and prosperity are closely intertwined, making a strong partnership between us essential. By deepening our co-operation, we can strengthen our ability to address the challenges of our time, strengthen our resilience and promote stability in Europe and beyond.

At the November summit, the two sides hope to sign three agreements: a food-and-drink deal to ease Brexit red tape; a pact linking the EU and UK’s emissions-trading systems, so avoiding European carbon taxes on British businesses; and a youth mobility scheme, enabling under 30s to live, work, study and travel for a time-limited period on both sides of the channel.

The agenda was agreed by Keir Starmer, who ruled out the UK rejoining the EU, its single market and customs union.

EU officials have also said the summit would be an occasion to discuss the future of the relationship, while stressing the UK needs to define what it wants.

One of Andy Burnham’s top priorities for the EU relationship is to ensure the UK is not disadvantaged by the bloc’s ‘Made in Europe’ laws that could favour EU manufacturers in strategic sectors, such as renewable energy, nuclear and electric cars.

Germany is leading a push for an inclusive definition of Made in Europe to include the UK, but France wants to ensure only EU companies can benefit from public subsidies and contracts in these sectors. The EU is not expected to reach agreement on a key Made-in-Europe law until December, meaning the issue will not be settled by the summit.

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Labour says Farage copying his asylum crackdown policy from Restore Britain - while Tories claim plan is same as theirs

Here is some reaction to the Reform UK asylum plans (see 9.53am, 11.35am and 1.41pm).

The Greens said Nigel Farage was wrong about what counts as a “normal country”. (See 11.17am.) The Green MP Siân Berry said:

Reform is dangerously pitting funding for the NHS against upholding basic human rights for asylum seekers, all while supporting US-style private healthcare for the UK for the enrichment of its billionaire backers.

The Green party’s idea of a ‘normal country’ is one which stands by international treaties, and where those fleeing war and persecution are treated with human decency. It is also a country where the richest pay their fair share and our public services are properly funded.

Bridget Phillipson, the Labour chair, accused Farage of copying Restore Britain, the small, far-right party led by Rupert Lowe.

This is a clear sign of desperation and weakness. Nigel Farage is casting around for more and more extreme policies as he tries to deal with scandals, police investigations and a growing challenge from Restore — this is a carbon copy of their policy.

Running away from basic decency by entirely abandoning those escaping war and persecution might look to Reform like a way of winning a bidding war with other parties on the right, but the vast majority of British people will reject it as an assault on our common values.

But Chris Philp, the shadow home secretary, said Farage was actually copying his party. He said:

These proposals largely copy Conservative policy from a year ago. Banning asylum claims by illegal immigrants, abolishing the immigration tribunal and ending Labour’s resettlement routes are all existing Conservative policy.

Keir Starmer’s successor as the MP for Holborn and St Pancras has taken her seat in the House of Commons, the Press Association reports. Sagal Abdi-Wali joined the Labour benches on Monday, having won a byelection last week with a majority of 3,364. As she arrived in the Commons chamber to take the oath of allegiance, she was accompanied to the despatch box by Labour MPs Natasha Irons (Croydon East) and Liam Conlon (Beckenham and Penge).

Andy Burnham will be giving his Commons statement at 3.30pm. It is being billed as an “international update”.

After he finishes, Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, will give a statement on the security of MPs, and then Chris Bryant, the Northern Ireland secretary, will give one on Drumcree.

AI minister Kanishka Narayan says breach of UK's cyber defences 'likely, if not inevitable'

A breach of the UK’s cyber defences is “likely, if not inevitable,” Britain’s AI minister has warned, as he unveiled new work under way aimed at preparing the country for serious incidents involving autonomous agents, the Press Association reports. PA says:

Kanishka Narayan said developers must “build machines that leave us human beings in charge” as the world crosses the threshold into “the age of superintelligence”.

In his first speech since his role was elevated to cabinet level, he confirmed that scientists at Britain’s AI Security Institute were running tests on the latest models, including Google’s Gemini, to ensure “robust safeguards”.

It marks a reversal of the White House ban on UK access to the latest models from major American tech firms including Anthropic and OpenAI following lobbying from the minister.

Google previously said it would restrict access to Gemini to only a vetted group of cyber security experts to avoid misuse by hackers, but Narayan said it would be among systems “rigorously” examined by UK scientists.

The British government will also explore strengthening parts of the cyber security and resilience bill and its wider regime to ensure key services such as hospitals and utilities are better protected from emerging risks, he said.

At a press conference in west London, Narayan pointed to an incident in Australia earlier this year, in which a rogue OpenAI agent hacked a government website and accessed private data.

“The Australian government has said that no personal medical records are known to have been accessed, and there is no evidence of wider compromise, but the incident should concern us,” he said.

The minister added: “It concerns me. It seems likely, if not inevitable, that our own cyber defences will be breached.”

Steven Morris is a Guardian reporter covering the west of England.

Dick Cole, the leader of the Cornish political party Mebyon Kernow – which campaigns for greater self-government in the far south west of Britain– is standing down after 29 years in charge.

MK, which believes that Cole is the longest-serving leader of a political party in the UK, said he will stand down at the party’s national conference in Truro later this month.

He was elected MK Leader in 1997 and before this served as MK’s press and campaigns officer for five years. This means he has been an office-holder within MK for nearly 80% of his adult life.

Cole said:

I am extremely proud to have been able to play my part in making the case for greater self-government for Cornwall and a much better deal for communities to the west of the Tamar.

He said he would continue to campaign for Cornwall and serve as the group leader of the MK group on Cornwall council.

Cole has been at the forefront of the battle to win more devolution for Cornwall. Progress has been made - Andy Burnham has said he is open to giving Cornwall more powers.

Reform UK proposes potential 40-fold increase in illegal migration checks, with 'every organ of British state' involved

Reform UK has published a policy document this morning about its plans to not allow any new asylum claims for five years. (See 9.53am.) Peter Walker says what it is proposing is “a hostile environment on steroids”, adding:

There would be migration checks everywhere. This would, inevitably, be vast numbers of other people caught up in it.

Here is an extract from the document.

A Reform UK government will direct every organ of the British state, both local and national, to make it impossible to live in Britain illegally. This will involve several large policy shifts, and many smaller changes. Overall, we expect it to produce a major increase in voluntary departures.

Currently, immigration enforcement capacity is extremely weak. Just 12,791 illegal-working visits were conducted in 2025. By contrast, there were 350,000 food hygiene visits, 51,020 non-domestic fire safety audits, and 13,200 HSE workplace inspections. There were tens of thousands more across trading standards, environmental health, housing and licensing inspections.

Currently, these visits do not include an immigration check. But this could be easily incorporated. Immigration checks do not require highly technical qualifications, and the officials that conduct these visits should be trained to also conduct a basic migration check. This would increase immigration enforcement capacity by a factor of at least 10, and up to 40.

These checks would feed data back to Deportation Command and the Migrant Identification Centre, increasing their ability to identify illegal migrants, leading to a large increase in voluntary and enforced departures. Revenue shared with local governments generated via fines on those employing illegal workers will encourage local cooperation, which in turn will generate more data for Deportation Command.

No 10 says Burnham accepts Brexit referendum result 'legitimate', despite Russian interference

Downing Street has said that Andy Burnham does not think Russian interference in the 2016 Brexit campaign affected the result.

Asked if that was the implication of the PM’s comments to the Rest is Politics podcast (see 10.33am), the PM’s spokesperson told journalists at the lobby briefing this morning:

Given everything we know about Russia, it is inconceivable they did not seek to use the referendum to their benefit. But as the minister [Stephen Doughty] said this morning, we do not believe they have succeeded.

The spokesperson said the PM “absolutely accepts the referendum result”.

After repeated questioning the spokesperson added: “Yes, we do believe the referendum result to be legitimate.”

Zia Yusuf says Reform UK would not send asylum seekers back to countries where they would be tortured or killed

Q: Do you accept that under your plans to deport asylum seekers, some of them could be sent back to countries where they might be tortured or killed?

Zia Yusuf said that would not happen.

We’re not going to be sending people back to be tortured or killed.

There would be third-country options where it was not safe to send an asylum seeker back to their home country, he said. He added:

We’re going to need to [have those options]. We are not idiots.

Farage backs Ukraine - but says it's 'one of most corrupt countries on earth', and questions how UK aid is spent

Q: Do you think there might be a point where Britain should stop supporting Ukraine?

Farage said that no one’s support for Ukraine was limitless. Even Andy Burnham would not suggest that his support for the country was limitless, he said.

Farage suggested he was backing Ukraine now.

But he went on:

This is one of the most corrupt countries on earth, all right? We know that.

I’ve been very, very worried about where some of our money has gone.

And, goodness me, Zelenskyy’s administration has been rocked by corruption claims, which perhaps makes at some point a general election there an important thing to do.

But I am in no doubt at all that [Russian president Vladimir] Putin now poses a greater threat than he’s posed at any point …

I’ve never said we shouldn’t support Ukraine, ever. But I have said I would have a keen look to make sure British taxpayers’ money is not being swallowed up in corruption.

(Farage is exaggerating. While Ukraine does have a corruption problem, in Transparency International’s Corruption Perceptions Index, it ranks 104 out of 181 countries, implying it is a long way off being among the worst performers.)

Farage suggests Ukraine should not wait until end of war before holding presidential election

Q: Do you back Donald Trump saying it is time for Volodymyr Zelenskyy to be replaced as president of Ukraine?

Farage replied:

Trump and Zelenskyy have a somewhat tempestuous relationship, so [Trump saying Zelenskyy should go] was not any particular surprise.

At some point Ukraine needs an election. Of course that’s true if it’s to be a country that aspires to have Western style values.

As to when that election comes, we’ll have to see.

I mean, we did have an election during world war two, a point that seems to be completely forgotten. But then people’s knowledge of history now appears to be pretty pathetic.

Zelenskyy says Ukraine should not hold a presidential election while the war continues, and that it would not be legal anyway because martial law is in force.

Farage is right to say that Britain held a general election in 1945 while the war was still going on. But it was the first election for 10 years, because the normal law requiring regular elections was suspended, and it did not take place until July 1945, two months after the war in Europe had finished. The war against Japan did not end until August.

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Q: [To Zia Yusuf] Why have you not promised to resign if you fail to deliver on your pledges within 100 days when Robert Jenrick and Richard Tice have?

Farage replied:

He doesn’t need to do it … Do you know why? Because I’ll sack him if he doesn’t deliver.

Farage says he does not back Trump buying diesel from Putin, but claims EU's record worse

Q: Do you agree with Donald Trump’s plan to buy diesel oil from Russia?

Farage said he didn’t. But he went on to accuse the EU of hypocrisy, saying:

There is a point you ought to write about – that is, who has been buying vast amounts of Russian petrochemicals, who’s been buying huge amounts of Russian gas, who’s been helping fund for the last five months, much of the last five years, the Ukraine war? Germany and the other countries in the European Union. And it’s a point that never, ever, ever, ever, ever gets made.

Farage criticises Sun for being part of pro-Badenoch 'establishment ecosystem' that won't accept Tories doomed

In response to a question from a Sun reporter, Farage complained about the Sun giving positive coverage to Kemi Badenoch today. He said:

[It’s] almost like a desperate attempt by the establishment ecosystem to keep the two-party system and the appointments to quangos and the OBEs and the knighthoods and the membership of the House of Lords. ‘Let’s not change anything. Let’s leave everything as it is. It doesn’t matter that Britain’s going to hell on a handcart. As long as we’re OK. That’s all that really matters.’

And I think that’s what’s going on.

I’m going to say this: the Conservative party cannot win the next election.

Do you know why? Literally they’ve disappeared in the Midlands, in the north. And I think in counties like Kent and Essex, they even on a good day could not come back with a fraction of the seats they won back in 2019, let alone the last election. So that is the point that I would make to you.

Farage seemed to be referring in particular to this column by Trevor Kavanagh in today’s paper.

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Q: Your policy document says that, under your policy, at any point there could be 24,000 illegal migrants detained. Doesn’t that mean local communities will continue to be affected?

Farage replied no, because “none of them will be free to roam the streets, [to] molest people, intimidate people.”

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Farage concedes Brexit has made life 'marginally harder' for some firms, but claims others have benefited

Q: [From the Kent Messenger] What do you say to businesses in Kent who say Brexit has made life harder for them?

Farage replied:

There’s no doubt that for some businesses Brexit makes life marginally harder.

It’s also true that, for some businesses who do their business outside of the European Union, Brexit has made their lives easier.

But let me say this to you – 95% of Kent businesses do no business overseas whatsoever. They do their business in this county or neighbouring counties or somewhere in the United Kingdom. Why should they be subject to rules that are designed for international trade between giant companies of multinationals?

Again, this is one of the points of Brexit, making life easier for men and women running their own companies, acting as sole traders.

And who was it that had the chance, with a stroke of a pen, to get rid of 4,000 of those regulations that had been agreed by everybody, but decided not to? Well, I’ll tell you what her name was. Kemi Badenoch [who was business secretary in the last government].

Q: Where did you get the dinghy behind you (see 11.25am), and how much did it cost?

Farage did not answer these questions, but he joked about how long it took him to blow it up.

Farage calls Burnham 'a liar', saying he was wrong to say Russia interfered in Brexit referendum

Q: Andy Burnham says Russia interfered with the Brexit vote. Does this taint the result? And do you think you gained from Russian interference?

Farage replied:

The prime minister is a liar. Yes, a liar.

Boris Johnson, when he became foreign secretary, one of the first questions he asked was, ‘Was there seen to be Russian interference in the referendum campaign?’ And the answer was no.

But I can give you a stronger answer than that. And that’s Stephen Doughty, the minister, Foreign Office minister, who was on the Today programme this morning, who within 24 hours of Andy Burnham making that outrageous comment, rowed it back and said even if there was some, it made no difference. [See 9.28am.]

There was no Russian interference. And the Russia hoax has run all the way through this.

And I particularly have to mention my friend and supporter Arron Banks, who was severely libelled over this. But in the end, I’m pleased to say, [he] won in the high court.

Farage went on to criticise Burnham’s argument that Brexit has done more harm than good. He said:

And [Burnham] says Brexit has done more harm than good. Well, I don’t think our growth figures are anything to write home about. But I tell you what, they’re a damn sight better than France and Germany and Italy.

Farage admitted that Brexit has caused more “inconvenience” for people trading with the EU. But, when it was necessary to protect borders, there would always be “some level of inconvenience”, he said.

Farage suggests, if a Reform UK government were to fail to deliver on its promises to cut immigration, it would be replaced by an even more extreme goverment.

He says:

I think the single biggest problem in British politics is the increasing feeling that people say things to the electorate that they never actually intend to carry out, and that trust in the whole system is beginning to break down.

If we were to let people down in that way, I shudder to think what would come after us. I genuinely shudder to think.

And maybe we’ve seen one or two potential signs of that in the last few weeks.

Farage seems to be referring to the masked protests. (Earlier he said he did not approve of protesters wearing balaclavas.)

Q: [From GB News] Have you taken advice from Donald Trump on how you will implement these plans?

No, says Farage. He says he is prepared to disagree with “many things” the president has said recently. But he goes on to praise Trump’s record on cutting immigration.

Farage and Yusuf are taking questions now.

Q: Are you going to include children among the asylum seekers you deport or repatriate?

Farage says they would not be exempt. If children were allowed to stay, that would open the door to family reunions, he says.

Zia Yusuf, Reform UK’s home affairs spokesperson, is speaking now. He started his speech with an account of a 73-year-old woman dying in North Wales after having to wait 23 hours for an ambulance, and he sought to link this to immigration.

He said:

The Royal College of Emergency Medicine estimates that 15,000 people across Britain died last year due to excess wait times for emergency treatment. That’s 300 people a week, 300 lives destroyed, 300 families devastated.

And that number has increased tenfold over the last decade. This is a moral outrage, and it is a direct result of decisions made by Tory and Labour governments.

The Tories imported 5 million net new people and left the country with fewer hospital beds. More people, fewer beds.

Today, we must be frank. Britain is full.

In his opening speech, Nigel Farage did refer himself to what Andy Burnham said about him on the Rest is Politics. (See 11.17am.)

Farage said it was “interesting” that Burnham was “for the first time … lashing out at me”.

He went on:

I don’t think that’s because he wants to have a fight over the European Union. I think that’s because he knows what we’re talking about today impacts hard in what is known as the red wall.

One consequence of Reform UK being awash with cash from donors is that they can afford to pay for the sort of stunts that other parties would find too expensive. We have seen an example this morning. At his press conference (where he has just finished giving his opening speech), Nigel Farage is standing in front of a replica of the boat that brought a record 230 asylum seekers to the UK in August.

Burnham says Farage 'very significantly responsible' for UK failing to move forward in past decade

Nigel Farage, the Reform UK leader, is starting his press conference now. There is a live stream here. He is talking about illegal immigration, and claiming that he just wants the UK to get back to being a “normal country” in the sense of being a state able to control its borders.

If any journalists are short of a question, they could ask about Andy Burnham saying Farage is “very significantly responsible” for Britain being deadlocked over the past decade.

Burnham told the Rest is Politics:

I don’t know whether Nigel Farage has got the appetite that he once had. We will see.

I certainly wouldn’t be one of those who would write him off. I think people have done that before at their peril …

I don’t think it’s a politics of the kind that Nigel provides [that the UK needs], because he’s given Britain a decade of division and drift. I would hold him very significantly responsible for our failure to move forward in the last decade.

Burnham says Badenoch's attack on ethnonationalism in Tory conference speech 'very brave'

Many commentators said the best moment in Kemi Badenoch’s party conference speech last week came when she attacked ethnonationalists, and people like Suella Braverman who suggest black people can’t be English.

Andy Burnham liked it. He told the Rest is Politics:

I thought Kemi Badenoch did a very brave thing at her conference this week. In some ways, she did something similar to what I did at Liverpool, where she spoke from real personal experience. And that gave her the power to make that point that she did about the racism that we see in politics these days. And that clear dividing line she drew with others on the right, I thought was a real moment in British politics.

Burnham says US plan to livestream execution by firing squad 'quite abhorrent in many ways'

In his Rest is Politics interview, Andy Burnham said he found the US proposal to livestream the execution of a mass killer by firing squad “abhorrent”.

Asked if Britain would take a stand on this, he replied:

It’s something that I can’t say I ever want to see anywhere in the world. It’s something that I find quite abhorrent in many ways. But I only want to speak for what we will do, and why we will do it.

Burnham said the government did not have to provide a “constant running commentary on everybody else”. But it should be clear about “what we stand for, what we believe is right and wrong.” He went on:

Let Britain stand for something in a world that seems to change every day.

Burnham says governments in past have not done enough to tell public about extent of Russian interference in UK politics

Andy Burnham made his comment about Russian interference in the Brexit campaign (see 9.28am) in an interview with Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart for their podcast, the Rest is Politics. The full interview is available today for podcast members, but the producers have released extracts to journalists.

Here is the full quote on Russia and Brexit. In it, Burnham specifically addressed the argument made by the Conservative party today – that he should not be raking up the past. Burnham said the government had not done enough to tell people about the extent to which Russia is interfering in western politics.

On Brexit, he said:

I asked the question coming to Downing Street, ‘Was there interference in the 2016 referendum from Russia?’ And I’ve had the clear answer that, ‘Yes, there was.’

These things are important now to put clearly on the record, and I believe, help voters in Germany and France understand that some of this politics is instigated via our enemies, namely Russia.

And, I think we’ve been too much on the back foot on that, actually. And we haven’t informed people sufficiently about the extent to which people are seeking to disrupt the political process from overseas.

Burnham also said he had discussed this issue with the German chancellor, Friedrich Merz, when they met in Berlin last week. Burnham said:

We have had a decade of drift and division that has caused more harm than good. In my view, we are a more fractious country than we were. We have a weaker sense of direction. And these are all the things I’m trying to fix as prime minister.

I want to draw a line on that decade … And one thing I did say to Chancellor Merz yesterday is, ‘We need to support you in taking on the threat that you face and particularly the type of politics that you’re facing.’ He was saying to me that the AfD is clearly linked to Russia, funded, I believe.

There is certainly misinformation, disinformation that is emanating from Russia into German politics, as I heard yesterday. And I’ve asked the question myself coming into this role, because I gave a speech to the UN recently on this very topic.

I don’t think we knew back then the extent to which there was state-sponsored interference in the British democratic process.

Farage says Reform UK would stop anyone being granted asylum for five years

Nigel Farage is set to announce a pledge to ban anyone from being granted asylum for five years if Reform were elected, the Press Association reports. PA says:

The Reform UK leader will announce a plan this morning to suspend the asylum system for a full parliamentary term and declare void any applications in progress.

All asylum tribunals, legal refugee routes and resettlement schemes will be scrapped.

A Reform government would not hear the around 90,000 outstanding asylum and humanitarian protection appeals and instead deport the claimants.

The party would immediately close resettlement schemes that home secretary Shabana Mahmood recently said would reopen, with around a quarter of those admitted to the UK expected to be Palestinians and women and girls from Afghanistan.

Reform says there is “no mandate” for such schemes and that anyone who has arrived under them would be deported.

Any refugees granted asylum in the last five years would have their cases reviewed by the Home Office under the plans.

Farage told The Telegraph: “The country is currently facing a national security emergency and the first duty of government is to protect its citizens. We cannot accept more asylum seekers while we still have no idea how many people are in the country illegally and the threat they pose. A Reform government will always put British people first and protect our borders.”

The party will also pledge to use tariffs to force countries to take back migrants.

Summing up his announcement on social media this morning, Farage said:

Today, I am announcing that a Reform UK Government will SHUT DOWN the asylum system.

This is a national security emergency and must be dealt with.

Ed Davey praises Burnham for confirming Russia tried to influence Brexit referendum result

Ed Davey, the Lib Dem leader, has praised Andy Burnham for confirming that Russia tried to influence the outcome of the 2016 Brexit referendum. (See 9.28am.) In a statement, he said:

I’m not going to agree with Andy Burnham on everything, but this statement needed to be said by a prime minister. After the Conservatives suppressed the truth for years, this took courage.

We must do far more to protect our democracy from attack by the Kremlin and other hostile states, before it is too late.

Tories accuse Burnham of being ‘dangerous and divisive’ after he confirms Russian interference in Brexit campaign

Good morning. The last time Andy Burnham gave a statement to MPs after a recess, it went on for more than three hours. This prompted Kemi Badenoch to make a lewd joke later about the PM’s stamina (which she repeated at a party conference reception with an additional line about how she just had to “sit back and lie there”.) Today we are getting another post-recess, potentially wide-ranging statement from the PM, but the mood might not be so cordial.

Quite a lot has happened since MPs were last in the chamber almost a month ago, and they will want to ask the PM about issues like the cost of living, North Sea oil and gas, the Iran war and Ukraine. We have not been told yet exactly what Burnham’s statement will cover. But, as Aletha Adu reports, Burnham will talk about Brexit, restating what he told Labour’s conference about how he thinks it has done more harm than good and making the case for trying to find a better, closer relationship with the EU.

The statement will come after 3.30pm

Burnham has also given an interview to the Rest is Politics podcast and in it he confirmed that Russia interfered in the Brexit referendum. This is one of those statements, quite common in politics, which are simultaneously unremarkable and newsworthy. Unremarkable – because it has been obvious to anyone reading the news for the past decade that the Russians were trying to help the leave campaign. And newsworthy – because it is not something that any previous PM has been keen to say.

For some years ministers have been using the line – set out in 2020 in the government’s response to the intelligence and security committee’s report on the threat posed by Russia – that “we have seen no evidence of successful interference in the EU referendum”. That implies there is evidence of unsuccessful interference. But in the past prime ministers have not said that explicity. Post-2016 Tory PMs, whether they voted leave or remain, did not want to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the leave vote, and Keir Starmer was also reluctant to poke his stick into that particular hornets’ nest.

Burnham is taking a different approach. In his interview, Burnham was not asked, and did not say, if he thought that Russian interference had an impact on the result. Stephen Doughty, a Foreign Office minister, has been giving interview this morning and he told Times Radio:

The result is the result, and I think the prime minister has been very clear that he’s talking about attempts to interfere. The security minister has spoken about this before. I’m confident that both the British people and the British state are able to respond to and defend against these types of threats, but we need to be very honest that those threats exist.

(“I think the PM has been very clear” is the sort of thing a minister says when what they mean is “Of course, the PM wasn’t clear at all, but I’m happy to give you the line now.” Doughty later told LBC the Russians “haven’t succeeded in their many, many attempts to undermine our [democratic] processes”.)

The Conservatives have criticised Burnham for even raising the topic. Andrew Bowie, the shadow energy secretary, told Times Radio this morning:

That Brexit referendum was a legitimate vote. People voted in this country in record numbers to leave the European Union. And I actually think it’s very dangerous and divisive of the prime minister to reopen this debate in such an explosive fashion.

Here is the agenda for the day.

11am: Kanishka Narayan, the AI minister, gives a speech.

11am: Nigel Farage, the Reform UK leader, and Zia Yusuf, its home affairs spokesperson, hold a press conference.

11.30am: Downing Street holds a lobby briefing.

2.30pm: Pat McFadden, the work and pensions secretary, takes questions in the Commons.

Afternoon: MLAs (members of the legislative assembly) will vote on a no confidence motion in Michelle O’Neill, the Sinn Féin first minister, over her support for a protest against the proposed Orange Order march down the Garvachy Road.

After 3.30pm: Andy Burnham makes a statement to MP.

Late afternoon: Shabana Mahmood, the home secretary, makes a statement to the Commons on the safety of MPs.

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